l'amour mene a la douleur..

[Pajaro Loco]

l'amour mene a la douleur a la fin.. mais le seul traitement est quand c le vrai amour... alors en ce cas la douleur ne se produira jamais !

In my humble opinion.

[Daria]

est ce l'amour qui mene a la douleur ou autre chose...

l'amour mene a la douleur a la fin.. mais le seul traitement est quand c le vrai amour... alors en ce cas la douleur ne se produira jamais !

In my humble opinion.

you mean, when it is the true LOVE, when it is the ONE....it won't hurt?
I did not get your point exactly, but that is what i understood.

but you know when you say : l'amour mene a la douleur...it is true somehow...when it is not/no_more shared...

In my humble opinion..


PS: check out my title for your answer.. Thx ;.)

[MaNoU]

personellemnt je crois l'amour mène aussi a la douleur meme si c'est un vrai amour ....c la meme chose ....s'il n'y a pas de douleurs , de deceptions, des larmes ....etc....c pas un amour!!!!

[KoRniChe]

je crois que les problemes entre les amoureux c comme du miel dans le lait !!
But do you trust in Love ???

[Pajaro Loco]

But do you trust in Love ???

Love is a byproduct of trust. So I do trust in love! Its a necessity of life.

How can one love without the trust in love...

[3elissa]

je ne sais pas si la douleur fait partie integrante de l amour en tt les cas elle devrait pas !!
et si c est vraiment la condition que ce soit le vrai amour qui va l empecher de se reproduire ! eh bien vivement le vrai amour
en tout les cas la douleur et la souffrance laissent toujours des traces indelibiles qui vont nuire a cet amour
on pardonne mais on n oublie pas
mais c selon la douleur infligee et la cause et souvent c est difficile a recuperer apres meme si c est un grand amour
mais comment reconnaitre le vrai amour ?????

[Pajaro Loco]

Daria...I love your show by the way... pure sarcasm :D

And I am not being sarcastic :P



Now about me eating my words and elaborating this thought that I through in the wilderness of this forum when it comes to love and the last pain due to love. It is clear that by writing such a simple sentence like that we tend to elaborate automatically in our answers just as I, you and everybody else did who participated in this post. I thought it would make it more interesting that way then to just make up a story with an intro to a plot ending by a conclusion which would be just a simple story for me to tell or share and for you to read and fulfill your curiosity, when as it could be a discussion which indeed I entended to create as I clearly did seeing the responses I got.





To come back to the subject I beleive it is very healthy to have a few misunderstandings in a love relationship, which can lead to some kind of pain and usually become cured by what is usually called "making out". But what I specified in the phrase I posted to start off this discussion is the fact that "its the last pain" knowing that that love has disappeared...no more..it is over... the love is gone along with that person. that is the pain I am referring to.



"But then again let me ask you how can one love, though trusting in love, but having no trust in people...?



Now thats you going a bit too far.. Who ever said one must trust in love but not in people???? Frankly that just does not make any sense, no offence ;)


Now, I would like to add that " la douleur" elle n'est pas vraiment causee par l'amour. ce sont plutot les Humains qui causent les douleurs envers each other...
Donc s'agit il de: have trust in love ? or whom to trust ?


Je suis tt a fait dac avec toi la ;)



( and if I go with your idea that love is a byproduct of trust)...then whom to love ? .



Love my friend is not a choice that you make to fall into and not to fall into.. Love is a mysterious electron that gets triggered inside your heart that makes you live that world of what shall I call it...... just simply "LOVE".. (beyond words! :D )



So lets not get too far ahead by confusing who to trust and who to love.... I trust Carolina but i am not in love with her, and I love and trust you as well as trusting others who gained my trust... but do I love you like I love my sweet heart?? You do agree that there are many types of love and many types of trust... there are really no need to go far into complicating one thing into something besides what is focused on.

[Daria]

food for thought

Hi Pajaro Loco,
I am reading your article with a friend who asked to reply. Here is what my friend wrote. Thank you.

I couldnt help but be intrigued by the content matter aforementioned. If the forum will accept my humble opinion I will be forthtelling. I beg the forgiveness of all parties that may feel I have misconstrued or
underwritten any of their thoughts, but I trust that in the end my utterances will be just that "utterances" from one who takes much interest in the discussion and one who has fallen victim to the emotion of love.

With the preface aside, I would like to embark on sharing my thoughts on what was initially dubbed "Loveleads to pain."

On many fronts I can submit my truest convictions to thus quoted. But at the outset it must be made clear by definition "What is love?" to subsequently debate or discover whether it leads to pain, and in sayingthat, "What is pain?"

What is love? Love comes in all shapes and sizes..cliche?Perhaps...but nonetheless true. Love in my opinion is a sense of completion. In every sense of the word! The love for your family, the love of a partner, husband/wife, children, perhaps a lover, maybe your pets, it might be money/materialistic elements. Loving anyone or anything is by definition
you having a sense of COMPLETION, and with this completion you feel whole...happy...perhaps obsessed. Without the factors that stimulate the emotion of LOVE, whether they be lost...dead...or mislead...you
WILL be left with a sense of incompletion (maybe initially, temporarily, or permanently) which will trigger unhappiness...which is by definition herein...PAIN. Now, you might disagree with my definition of pain, but I say unhappiness, because it is the most subtle expression for the latter and in
giving the most subtle you can understand that anything over and above that is just a greater degreeof PAIN.

I humbly submit the above to the respectful perusal of the forum members.

Yours Truly,
Daria,
PS: I too share the same opinion with my friend. I will write back later. See you.

[Pajaro Loco]

Yeah... right..
Thank you for sharing your opinion.

Now to come back to Daria.. I frankly don't care to participate in any discussion with you. So if I don't reply to any of your posts... just don't be surprised.

I like to discuss subjects with people who are themselves instead of them being sneaky to the point where it becomes lame!!!

[Daria]

Yeah... right..
Thank you for sharing your opinion.

Now to come back to Daria.. I frankly don't care to participate in any discussion with you. So if I don't reply to any of your posts... just don't be surprised.

I like to discuss subjects with people who are themselves instead of them being sneaky to the point where it becomes lame!!!

are you all right? why do you say that? this is wrong!!!

[Azucenita_Blanca]

3ellissa:"mais comment reconnaitre le vrai amour ?????"---->je pense que c'est ça le mystère du vrai amour,on peut pas le reconnaître par des caractéristiques,juste on le ressens,et c'est même pas directement qu'on le ressens pour certain cas,c'est le temps qui apprendra à qqun si c'est son autre partie ou pas.
Bon je reviens au sujet de PajaroLoco mnt,tu dis que le vrai amour ne cause pas de douleur finale,premièrement que veux-tu dire par finale?Le douleur crée en rompant?C'est ça le douleur finale?Bon selon moi la douleur finale n'exciste même pas,mais j'attends ta réponse.Deuxièment ce qui concerne le lien entre le vrai amour et la douleur,je pense que justement le vrai amour cause la plus grande peine pcq quand on perd le vrai amour,que ça soit pour longe ou courte terme,on perd qqchose qui a une très grande valeur donc la période de 'deuil' durera plus longtemps zeda,tandis que si c'est juste une tite histoire de gamins,ça causera de la peine,oui,je le nie pas,mais pendant 1 jour ou même 2 au maximum.
Et en plus,comme l'a déjà dit qqun dans cette rubrique,désolée,je me souviens plus qui,c'est pas l'amour qui crée de la peine,ce sont les gens et non seulement les gens,même le temps dans laquelle déroule une certaine situation joue un rôle,on pourait être fait l'un pour l'autre,mais tandis que l'un ne l'a pas remarqué encore pcq le temps n'a pas joué dans le faveur de leur relation.D'ailleurs,elli ketebhoulna rabbi issir,on n'a qu'à découvrir ce que le temps nous préserve,hé,je dis pas qu'on doit attendre les bras croisés l'amour pourqu'il vienne,non,mais juste on vie sa vie de jour en jour et on se laisse trouver par l'amour et non on le cherche.

[Daria]

c'est moi qui a parle des gens passionnata. et je suis aussi tout a fait d'accord avec toi concernant le facteur temps !!

[Azucenita_Blanca]

Désolée Daria,pourtant j'ai regardé mais pas trouvée tellement ils étaient long ls textes

[Pajaro Loco]

PaSsIoNaTa... pour ma reponse, relis mes postes precedents et tu trouveras mes reponses a ta question

et comme j'ai dis encore que je suis tt a fait d'accord que c'est pas l'amour qui cree de la peine,ce sont les gens ..


"mais juste on vie sa vie de jour en jour et on se laisse trouver par l'amour et non on le cherche."

Tres bien dit! ;)

[Azucenita_Blanca]

Ti maw b5olet bech enkemel na9ra avec ses longues discussions entre toi et Daria,da5ltouni ba3di Donc réponds moi ou barek uppy_dog
PajaroLoco:"Tres bien dit!"--->merci beaucoup :dance: